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  Ignorance of Watchtower doctrine among young JW's

  by nicolaou in

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  i've been having a conversation with a young jw on twitter and have, once again, come up against beliefs that do not match up with official watchtower doctrine.

  if you like you can read the full thread here (you'll need to click on some comments to open it all up).. anyway the upshot is that this jw, and many like her, believe that only truly wicked people will be killed at armageddon - not innocent babies and children or anyone who "didn't know better" perhaps because they didn't get a witness.

  it's as though they cannot accept the obvious injustice of jehovah's morality.. this jw teenager believes that all these non-jw's who survive armageddon will get their chance to prove their loyalty during the 1000 year reign of christ - again, not a watchtower teaching.. i don't really have a question to ask, this is just an observation.

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  Young elders are so cute.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
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  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  I'm going to resist the obvious open-goal and go to bed.

  Yes, go on, say it, say that our culture has changed drastically in the years since then. Make the claim that looting is no longer a thing. And that Britain is now an ultra-tolerant place. Yes, our culture has changed since then, but the problems with it have not gone away. And maybe some new ideas from other cultures might actually do us some good.

  I was literally about the close the tab when you posted that. Closing it now.
  
  
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  If you're content to see Brits become a minority in the UK then you have no regard for the preservation of British culture.

  No, I just accept that immigrants have the ability to become Brits, given time, and integration, and that culture changes through time.

  Multiculturalism is a failed project.

  We'll see. It's not over yet.

  It's a bit sad that you would disparage one of the greatest examples of the British spirit.

  Fallacy ad romanticising.

  Coined it myself, hope you like it.

  Night.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  No serious attempt at discussion, just 'good luck'?

  The entire last few pages wasn't enough for you? I said I'm done for tonight, and I don't even know how to reply to that post, it made no sense to me.
  
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  it's not just racist right wingers who care what colour people are.
  Plenty on the left obsess over race.
  Perhaps we should do away with the Black Police Association. Operation Trident can go, too.
  Ditto race hate crime legislation.
  Ditto government funding that helps members of a certain ethnic group.
  I'm sure you get the picture ...

  Yes, good luck.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  Bottom line is you have no regard for British culture and that is why you reacted negatively to comments that opposed mass immigration.

  No regard? Wrong. I have issues with it. It is very 'preach but don't practice', I do believe that. But that is not the same as having no regard.

  I never reacted negatively to comments that opposed mass immigration, I myself (for the hundredth time) oppose uncontrolled immigration. I reacted negatively to comments about a non-white majority. And as promised, now that you've put words in my mouth again, I am done for tonight.

  Your dislike of British culture is masquerading as a virtue.

  I've claimed no virtue.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  So if I said all Pakistanis were misogynist that wouldn't be racist because Pakistan is a nation not a race. Got it.

  All Pakistanis? All? No one said all.

  If you said Pakistanis were generally misogynist and you had a good reason to assert that then what possible issue could I take with it?

  Again though, nitpicking.

  But would it be bigoted or prejudiced though?

  I'm an XJW, not an SJW, so I don't care.
  
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  You critique what people write as if you're peer reviewing an academic paper. Sometimes, I use rhetoric. Sorry, in future I'll write entirely in statistics and Harvard reference my sources for you.

  I gave examples of how we don't live up to our own standards. Deal with the point, don't nitpick details.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  To say any race is monolithically anything is the very definition of racism.

  It was a piece of poetic rhetoric based on prior use of the word monolithically, do you even understand what I mean by that?

  And no, it's not racist, because the British are a nation, not a race.

  If I'd said whites were, then it would be. The British have a culture, whites don't.
  
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  And as I said the UK population is currently 86% white, 7.5% Asian and 3.3% Black so unless you are in favour of ongoing and accelerating mass immigration a white-majority is a permanent certainty.

  And as I said, it was a principled argument. I'm not against the idea in principle, but I accept that only the way we could get there any time soon would be untenable. The problem is, there are people here who seem to be against it in principle. Are we sorted on that now?

  You asserted that cultural preservation was not important.

  No, just not as important as other things, like the fact that we are in the midst of the fastest mass extinction event ever.

  Now you have revealed that you despise British culture.

  No, I have issues with it. Is that allowed? Do I need to love it? I like aspects of it and dislike others, many others. Is British culture a monolith now?

  Your masochism is the real issue here.

  Tut tut. Ad hominem? Masochism is a form of self-flagellation (well, usually with the help of others). Criticising British culture is not self-flagellation because I am not British culture, I am an individual who lives in Britain, with my own pros and cons. You're getting too personal here so I think perhaps it's best to put this on ice for a few hours.

  Focus on the issues, not my issues, they're none of your business.